Comments on: confusing//burners

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Thu, 29 Sep 2005 00:14:48 +0000

Mr Dew: You can always do it like this way…Back To The Future heheh

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Wed, 28 Sep 2005 21:31:00 +0000

Nafcom: hahaa… Well… It’d be completed soon. I took longer as I prefer to wait for the whole story to unfold on my side. The story hasn’t exactly ended actually.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:56:50 +0000

Mr Dew: Wow, more than one? :-O

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:09:57 +0000

Nafcom: I didn’t note the quotes. I’m getting the DVD burners. It takes me so long to get one. Quite busy these days.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:00:58 +0000

PS: The quoting starts at ” and ends at “, I am not respsonisble for the quoted article, nor irs URLs, I guess you did not notice this

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Sun, 25 Sep 2005 18:46:57 +0000

Mr Dew: Right it’s causing a 404 error now. Well, use http://www.archive.org/ …

Well, ca. 3.18 Ã¢?Â¬ per DVD-RAM is absolutely ok for what you get. and since Type 2 are removeable as you can read, I didn’t have to destroy the cartridge. Even without cartridge they are absolutely save and amazing!

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:42:04 +0000

NafcomL Thanks for the great information. I’ll use DVD-RAM to do backing up related things in future. It sounds good, but at a price. It cost more expensive than the other formats. I like the idea that you can work with it like a hard disk though. I can’t access t he Panasonic article by the way.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:23:02 +0000

Mr Dew: thanks to google, I found this:

http://aplawrence.com/Reviews/dvdram.html

“With typical compression, you can store over 9 GB on one side of a DVD disk (you flip the cartridge to write the other side of a double-sided disk). Write speed is about 3 GB per hour. The speed and capacity are quite suitable for many typical small business servers.

Although a tremendous amount of data is packed into a small space, you shouldn’t experience any problems with scratches and other physical damage. In the first place, the media is packaged in a tough plastic cartridge. The Type 1 media remains in that cartridge forever; the Type 2 can be removed and can be used in some dual purpose CD/DVD drives. But more importantly, the DVD error correction is said to be 10 times better than that used with CDROM’s. When used for backup, where there would be no reason to ever remove the media from the cartridge, errors should be effectively non-existent.

Because of the extreme expected life (100,000 writes is 273 years of daily backup!), media cost should be far lower than tape (which typically will survive only a few hundred writes) – in fact, these units could pay for themselves in just a few years in many locations.

See http://www.toshiba.com/taecdpd/products/docs/dvdramwhitepaper.shtml for a white paper that explains the technology in more depth.

See http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/computer/storage/dvdram/prods/faq.htm for a DVD-RAM FAQ.”

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:55:31 +0000

9 GB? I haven’t seen them around actually. Is that dual layer ones? I haven’t seen dual layers DVD-RAM burners lately though. Or had I just missed it.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:46:24 +0000

PS: Yes, Type II is 4.7 GB, but I saw 9-something GB DVD-RAMs, my writer cannot handle others than the one I have bought. It’s 1 1/2 years old…

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:43:30 +0000

Mr Dew: You do not burn it, it works like a HDD…
So I cannot answer your question, really, sorry. Also it depends, the DVD-RAM I ordered is 3 x certified.

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:14:27 +0000

Nafcom: That’s good. How long does it take to burn a DVD-RAM? What’s the storage capacity of your DVD-RAM by the way. I only see the 4.7 GB ones in Singapore and I don’t see them in cartridges.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Wed, 21 Sep 2005 17:28:07 +0000

@Mr Dew: My parcels arrived today, and since the DVD-RAMs where officially meant to be removeable I had not to damage anything, so I can always put them back in! And I tell you they are awesome!
Of course not as fast as a HDD but awesome. I do not want to scratch one to see wether it really works like a HDD, but I guess it’s fine from what I have experienced today 5 DVD-RAMs for 19 Ã¢?Â¬, that is just ok

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:27:12 +0000

Mr Dew: But then the DVD RAMs I have ordered write “removeable” so maybe no need to crack them? The parcel is… not here. All the worst to DHL http://www.dhl.de/dhl?skin=hi&check=yes&lang=de_EN&xmlFile=4037

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:10:40 +0000

Nafcom: You’re welcome!

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:52:14 +0000

@Mr Dew:
Yes, that is exactly the type of DVD-RAM I have ordered! (type 2 disc).
My LG writer writes the bare disk

Thank you for the manual! I was about to figure it out myself…
But manual is much better, of course

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:15:00 +0000

hmmmp... Maybe you can check this out, they manage to do so it seems.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:44:02 +0000

Mr Dew: I heard this is not possible with all. I also heard that only some can be oppened (which is the same), and I have not seen any without cardrige. but removeable cartdriges can be used as protection.

By: Mr. Dew

Mr. Dew — Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:15:03 +0000

I heard that you can buy it with the catridges and crack it open and you get the DVD-RAM. But there really is no need I think, don’t they sell DVD-RAM without catridges in Germany? I seen them in Singapore. I haven’t seen one without the catridge actually, hahaa… I heard some DVD recorders uses them.

By: Nafcom

Nafcom — Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:31:59 +0000

@Mr Dew: On Monday, I will get my parcels with PC stuff, I will let you know about my experiences with the DVD-RAMs.

By the way: You have to buy those with removeable cartidges. Those with cardriges only work in special drives.
I found the DVD-RAMs with no cartridges or removeable cartdridges are hard to find.